Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Blog Post # 2- Cloning

Please read the article handed out in class called "Pros and Cons of Cloning." Then, write a comment that answers the following questions:


  • How do you feel about cloning in general?
  •  How do you feel about cloning of plants and animals?
  •  What do you think is the greatest benefit OR greatest problem with cloning plants and/or animals?
  •  How do you feel about human cloning? What do you think is the greatest benefit OR greatest problem with cloning humans?

By MONDAY, you must respond to at least 2 classmates. You can ask a question, make a comment, or add to their post.

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  1. I think that in general, cloning has a lot of benefits that can save lives. I think cloning in both plants and humans can be extremely beneficial. I think being able to clone plants that could be highly nutritious, could grow in various environments, and be disease resistant would be very helpful to the world's starvation problem. If you could clone human organs, that would save lives. And the more we did, the more advancements in cloning technology would be made, and hopefully one of them would reduce the cost. I think if two people who can't have children or who lose children at a very young age, should not choose to clone and have a child. They should instead adopt, because there are millions of people without parents.

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    1. I agree that cloning has a lot of benefits, especially human cloning. However, I think that there could be small errors that would kill a child. The benifits still outway the costs so cloning should continue

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    2. I agree that cloning can be very beneficial, but there are many problems that need to be considered and prevented.

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    3. I definitely agree about cloning plants, which could help solve the problem of world hunger. And your point about adoption instead of cloning is a much better solution.

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    4. I think that your proposed solution for adoption instead of cloning humans is a very good idea. I think that the cloning of plants is good and beneficial to world hunger, but that we shouldn't become too dependent on this food source. With the lack of genetic variation, it would be too risky for a disease to spread among the plants and animals that completely wipes them out, leaving us with nothing.

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    5. I agree with your ideas about cloning plants. I think that that could save many lives and put an end to the world's starvation problems. I disagree with your point about adopting instead of cloning. I believe that the parents should be able to choose between adoption and cloning.

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  2. In general, I feel that cloning is very beneficial. I think that cloning plants and animals would be a good thing because it could produce more disease resistant plants and animals. I think the greatest benefit of cloning plants and animals is that it would help get rid of world hunger. I don't like the idea of human cloning, I think that it is creepy. I think the biggest problem with cloning humans is the cost, also, it is very difficult to clone a human.

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    1. Would you be okay with cloning people if it would save a life, besides the fact that yeah it is creepy?

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    2. i think it would be okay if it was for saving a life but not for everyday purposes. we need the diversity and it would be creepy to see the double of yourself or someone else!

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    3. I totally agree with your thoughts on ending world hunger by cloning plants and animals but I do not understand how cloning humans is "creepy" it seems just like cloning plants or animals. Humans are animals too, right?

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  3. Human cloning is a complex topic that should be taken in much consideration. Cloning would not be a good idea with humans because it would defeat the idea of, "you and different than everyone else." Although cloning specific organs may be a good idea given the fact that a living person can't loan their heart or lungs without dying themselves. But that could lead to a serious hospital bill that many will not be able to afford. Imagine walking down a street and you see the same you, that idea seems unethical. On the other hand, cloning plants could have their uses. Although you must take a careful approach to plant cloning because if you clone all the same type to food or plant, diseases in the future may wipe out the species. Cloning may increase the amount of food there is in the world to end global hunger, but there is already enough food in the world of feed every human. I think in general cloning is not something we need to take one step at a time and not make any misinterpretations about the matter.

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    1. I agree that cloning of humans is unethical. I wouldn't want there to be someone with the exact same DNA as me (unless we were naturally born identical twins, in which case I still feel "less unique"). I also agree that it is important to be careful in preserving original species. The threat of disease/loss of biodiversity is very dangerous.

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    2. I agree that cloning should be used for plants and animals as food sources which would be greatly beneficial to humans. I also agree that humans should not be cloned because it would defeat the purpose of being different. To add on to this, I also believe that the cost of cloning would greatly out-price the need for cloning to take place.

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    3. The only thing about cloning yourself to get a heart or a lung is what would you do with the clone of yourself, it would die.

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    4. First of all, I don't think cloning is complex at all!! it is as simple as 2+2=4

      Also how having too much food would hurt the earth?

      And when you say there is enough food in the world to feed every human how is it that there are kids younger than you starving in Africa??

      Would you please explain...

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  4. I think that cloning is a very powerful tool and should be used wisely in order to benefit out present without harming our future. For example I believe that plant cloning is very beneficial in the sense that it creates large, strong, more disease resistant "super crops" which can be sold on the mass markets and distributed among regions in need of food aid. Food aid from cloned plants is in a way ideal because it provides large amounts of food into which extra vitamins, minerals, proteins, fats or other necessary substances can be added into the food in the case of a malnourished population. Similarly I think that animal cloning can also be useful. I think it is a good idea to clone animals for large companies like McDonald's or KFC which need large amounts of meat to process for food items. This is appropriate because when you go to a fast food restaurant you aren't really looking for top notch, organic, non-cloned meat. Since it will be processed anyway, cloned animals are a good solution to a large source of good meat for large food companies. Also, cloned cows, for example can be used to produce more healthy, vitamin-rich milk for the markets. However, In both cases I think that immediately cloning as much as can be done is a very unwise choice. As so much information in biology is yet to be uncovered, I think it is very important that cloned animals do not overtake the "original" cloned animals. The original species should be carefully preserved and kept mostly separate from the cloned animals. We never know - if our cloned animals have a particular weak defense for a disease, it could easily wipe out much of the population - thus making the system unsustainable. Also, undiscovered genes that will be necessary for the future may be eliminated by cloning excessively without taking care to preserve the original species. It is the same case for plants. In both cases, preserving biodiversity is important. Evolution is not to be "played with" in my opinion. In order for evolution to continue, however slow, there needs to be a natural balance of diverse species in the world. Biodiversity is more essential than many assume. In Biology, the whole world and all the living species on it are interconnected, maintaining natural balance. If all animals in the far future are cloned and have the same DNA, I believe this could be slightly disrupted.
    As for cloning humans I think that it is unethical. I don't believe in creating "super kids" and I do worry that many people will be tempted to do this once it is possible. I believe that human cloning should only be used to help people. For example, I believe in organ cloning to save lives, in the future. I believe that as cloning technology improves, it will be more and more of a common medical procedure to help people. And, therefore, it will become less and less expensive as scientists discover ways to clone more quickly and effectively. I do not believe in human cloning as a tool to create a "super" race of humans with optimum genetic potential. Not only would that eliminate the balance of strong/weak humans, but I think it would be trifling with the natural order things.

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    1. sorry i forgot to mention, this was published by edie

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  5. My opinion, is that in general, cloning can largely benefit the world. Cloning plants and animals could be the solution to many problems we are facing today. However, I don't think that cloning humans would be good because it is creepy to think of two of the same person walking around with the exact same DNA that are not identical twins. I think that the greatest benefit of cloning plants and animals is that it could help put a stop to world hunger. However, the biggest con is that if every plant had the same DNA, it could be much more easily wiped out by a disease. It is also incredibly expensive to clone plants and animals. I do not think that cloning humans is a good idea because it is very creepy and the cost is very high. I also think that it could cause many tensions between people because some think that by cloning they are "playing god". This could lead to many arguments and a series of unfortunate events.

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    1. I agree with your points, but cloning in plants can also make them stronger and can eliminate negative traits, making them stronger against disease.

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    2. though they make them stronger we never know what disease will hit in the future and destroy every single plant of that type or animal. Having differences is sometimes the biggest defense.

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    3. I agree that there are dangers in human cloning, and that it is "creepy" but do you agree with organ cloning if it could save lives?

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  6. In general I believe cloning to have more positive benifits than dangerous problems. However, there are many valid concerns about destruction of a singlecrop could lead to the downfall of an entire species.I think that cloning in plants and animals should be be allowed, for it could lead to better farming and cheaper, but still healthy food for the poor. Overall, the cloning of plants and animals could help billions of people, and save many lives. As long as there was a backup, in case of disease, then i would be okay with a total change of vaious farm animals and plants. I also think that it could potentially save many endangered species that are on the brink of existence. These are many the greatest benefits, but the greatest weakness would be having a disease that was able to kill all of the same cloned plant or animal. The disease would spread throuugh the entire world and destroy the entire species. This is why we would need to have a backup of every plant that could not be destroyed. Cloning in humans, in my opinion, is another option that would not be bad. The two greatest benifits would be as organ donors, and as creating children for parents that are infertile. I have no ethical problem with creating children for infertile parents, but I would feel pity for any children that were created just for the purpose of being killed. Still if a solution for this arises I would be very keen on hearing it. The main problem with cloning humans is the cost issue, and the death of a normal human. Cloning a human would cost a lot of money, and if it were to go wrong all of that would go down the drain. I also have a moral problem of normal children being held at the hands of a scientist who makes a small error and kills them. This would be terrible.
    - Kieran Loehr Period 1/2

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    1. Yeah, I think there are more benefits as opposed to problems with cloning.

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    2. i do agree with you on the fact that if people were to clone animals or plants and that species was destroyed then having a backup set of dna would be essential, but you never know... what if genetically modifying stronger more disease resistant plants made the diseases adapt to become more potent?

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  7. In general i believe that cloning could be a very good thing for humanity. For instance cloning could help many people by cloning more disease resistant plants thus increasing the gross national product by a significant amount which would then benefit many people who are starving. This could also be applied to many species of animals. I think that the cloning of these plants and animals would be highly beneficial to humanity. I agree that the largest con is that it would severely reduce genetic variation. However, I believe that human cloning is not a good idea, it would highly reduce the genetic variation of humans and i believe that change is one thing that humans totally rely on.

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  8. I think that cloning is a very controversial subject and there are many problems and benefits. I think that cloning in plants is not a problem and could be very beneficial but ginetically modified foods need to be labled as such. I think that the problems with cloning animals is more severe. With cloning animals you could end up causing pain if the process goes wrong. I think that cloning humans is not something that should ever happen. With cloning a human you remove the individuality and could mess up the process and cause the human to suffer.

    -Liam Pfaff

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    1. I agree with most of this statement. Any food that has been cloned or otherwise modified should be stated as such, because I would not eat it. Also, the suffering and pain in a failed clone animal or human could be phenomenal, it is best to avoid cloning animals and humans. I can just imagine me being cloned and my "son" having his brain switched places with his liver... It would be terrible!

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    2. Clonning animals and humans isn't such a great idea. It also depends on what plants you are clonning. It is still to risky for me to even want to try it.

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    3. I agree with your statement about causing a painful life for the clone, with technology like this you never know what could go wrong. I also believe if the cloning of plant and animals should come into practice they must be labeled. I don't think that would happen though because the cloning process is probably more expensive than just farming animals, at least not likely in the near future.

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    4. I also think that cloning humans is a risky thing to do. How would you explain that there was a person in the world you are an exact copy of. I think it is a bit too much.

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  9. In general I think cloning could defeinetly solve many problems in the world, such as world hunger and extinction of rare plants and animals. I am almost 100% for cloning plants and animals. cloning plants that don't carry diseases could lead to great things, and cloning heathy animals could lead to a unlimited supply of food witch could solve many hunger problems worldwide. In my opinion the greatest benifit from cloning plants and animals would be the great amount of food we would have to feed people all over the world. Human cloning in my opinion is just not right because it would cause the diversity of humans would just go down so much and the world would not be as interesting. The only time I would ever consider human cloning would be if human were going extinct witch is possible but dosent seem like it is going to happen any time soon.

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  10. I think that cloning can be good but you have to be careful when cloning to make sure you maintain diversity of plants and animals. I think that the greatest downside to cloning is if you clone a type of plant or animal so that you have the best then a disease comes along and wipes that type of plant or animal out, then you're stuck with no more of that species. An upside to cloning could be that we can have a mass production of plants and animals which provides more food for the world. Also, the plants and animals would be more disease-resistant and with better nutrition. I think that human cloning is kind of creepy and unnatural. A benefit of human cloning could be that if you could clone just the organs then you could save a person's life who needed a new heart without having to have an organ donor. A problem with human cloning is that the clones wouldn't have any human rights or protection under the law.

    --Maya Rutherford

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    1. Why wouldn't the clones have any protection under the law or human rights? Aren't they still human?

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    2. I definitely agree that we should maintain the diversity of plants and animals when considering about cloning! Diversity helps improve survival in the future.

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  11. In general I think cloning could defeinetly solve many problems in the world, such as world hunger and extinction of rare plants and animals. I am almost 100% for cloning plants and animals. cloning plants that don't carry diseases could lead to great things, and cloning heathy animals could lead to a unlimited supply of food witch could solve many hunger problems worldwide. In my opinion the greatest benifit from cloning plants and animals would be the great amount of food we would have to feed people all over the world. Human cloning in my opinion is just not right because it would cause the diversity of humans would just go down so much and the world would not be as interesting. The only time I would ever consider human cloning would be if human were going extinct witch is possible but dosent seem like it is going to happen any time soon.

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    1. One problem with the survival theory is replicative fading. As you clone a clone, tiny flaws pop up in the DNA sequences. Eventually, the flaws are fatal and clones cannot survive. This could happen in as few as 40 generations.

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    2. Good catch Peyton, I did not see that at all. And, also, you need feed for the animals. And you can't feed them rotting carcasses, that's been tried and done. This plan is supah-flawed. If you're going to say that they could easily clone corn and soy, you're wrong. Fresh water is in high demand and only getting higher. There's no way for this to work out large scale.

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  13. Cloning in general I believe is not a very good idea. Yes, the cloning of rare plants and animals to save them from extinction, but how much cloning must one do to have a large enough gene pool for the species to survive on its own? A LOT. The species may die out by this time. If corn were cloned and NEVER reproduced naturally again, after a few generations, corn would no longer be a viable crop. The fact that cloning reduces the number of variable genes in a species is its biggest flaw. Cloning humans is even worse. The number of potential risks in cloning humans is so high, the chances of death to living I am estimating to be 10 billion to one with today's technology. We are too advanced to clone easily. The process would be expensive, too. Also, replicative fading would end up being our largest problem if we become dependent on cloning as a means of reproduction. As clones are cloned, tiny flaws begin to appear in the base pair sequence of our DNA molecules. Eventually,after as little as 40 generations, the flaws become fatal, and humans would go extinct. That is cloning's biggest flaw, when clones are cloned. The best possible application of human cloning for me would be that perhaps we would be able to clone a single gene or two that would be beneficial, and otherwise reproduce naturally. Otherwise, there are too many risks with cloning. It is an imperfect science and should not be tampered with.

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    1. I think your right, it is a very risky process and it defies science. It's to risky to try a new science that could ruin lives

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  14. Overall, I think that cloning is a decent idea. It mostly depends on what is being cloned and the risks though. Cloning plants is completely acceptable because we have plenty on earth, and they will become disease-resistant and more predictable which will help agriculture in the long run. As for animals I think that we should simply be more cautious and careful. Cloning domesticated animals could create superior food and also larger quantities which can benefit the entire world. However, it's important that we do not clone too much. If we have the ability and knowledge to save and improve lives, we should put it to use.

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    1. I agree very much with your thoughts. Especially about if we have the ability to save and/or improve lives we should make use of that!

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    2. I like and agree with the fact that when it comes to cloning animals, we have to be super cautious and the statement, "it's important that we do not clone to much."

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  16. In general I believe cloning is a very complicated process and should be taken into a well discussion before taking any steps. I feel that the cloning of plants and animals is quite beneficial. For one, it could reduce world hunger, mainly to people who may not be able afford food. Also if there is a major drought one year, the cloning of plants would be very handy. Although, a con of cloning a plant is if you clone a specific species, in plentiful amounts, and a disease is carried along, it may wipe out the entire species. I feel that the cloning of a whole human being is very unnatural. If we began to clone humans, there would be a major lack of diversity. However, I do think the cloning of organs would be very helpful in saving humans.

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    1. I agree, especially with the world hunger issue, I talked about that too. I also strongly agree with your points on cloning humans!

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    2. I agree that even though cloning could be very beneficial, there are many complications that should be considered before trying to implement it on humans.

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    3. i agree that cloning of plants and animals is beneficial. but cloning human being is not a good ideaa becasue if one human get a disease, other human will get this disease quickly i guess.

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    4. I agree with and also talked about how a downside to the cloning of plants is that if a disease comes along and the plant is whipped out then we have no more of that kind or plant/food.

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    5. I agree with you on world hunger I think it can really help the world in the future. I also agree that although cloning can be very beneficial, there are many cons that have to be taken into account.

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  17. I'm against cloning it is a very risky process and shouldn't be used. Using it on animals and or plants that are possibly endangered and cloning an endngered animal could kill it and you wouldn't want to be reasponsible for ending an animal species. First cloning should be tested on plants, and animals that are endangered, seeming that we have plenty of other animals that are way to populated. I understand that the endangered animals should repopulated, but we cant use a theory that isn't fully experienced and tested on things thast aren't endangered. Humans on the other hand isn't such a great idea, because you could possibly kill or danger that person, also the clone could possibly not look anything like the person you are clong. I don't think it's such a great idea to clone anything.

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  18. I believe that cloning is, overall, a good and beneficial practice. It has the potential to save endangered species and create organisms that could be a great help to society. Despite the fact that cloning can reduce genetic diversity in a species it would still be better for an endangered species to be saved than allowed to go extinct, even if that special become less genetically diverse. Cloning of genetically modified plants and bacteria is also, in my opinion, a definite positive to cloning. These GM products can, and do, a great manner of beneficial tasks such as produces fuel, medicine, and other substances as well as other things such as detect explosives or disease. Cloning animals can produce better animals to feed our growing population and also cure disease. I do not believe, however, of the use of animals for the sole purpose of growing organs for humans. Human cloning is another aspect that I thoroughly disagree with. Super humans would cause great discrepancies between GM and normal people and is just going too far.

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    1. Totally agree with you that cloning humans, along with the other problems, would indeed cause discrimination towards normal people. And its kinda like, why change something that's doing fine and doesn't need to be changed.

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    2. I agree that cloning is a good practice that should probably be done. I agree that animals shouldn't be grown simply to be used as organ doners. This seems as though it is inhumane for any organism to be born just to die.

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  19. My overall opinion on cloning is, it depends on the situation. There are many cases in which cloning could be very beneficial. I think that if a species is in danger of extinction, then cloning would be a good thing to do, or if it is used for medical purposes, depending on how, cloning could help many people. But for crops and animals we rely on for food to survive, I do not think that it should all become cloned, I think that even when you have desired traits and it would be ideal to clone, you should still have variation in the DNA, meaning you could still clone it, just not have it all be cloned. And when it comes to cloning humans, I really don't know, I think people are fine the way they are, but I can see in some cases were it could be beneficial.

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  20. I feel cloning is very beneficial, if used in a safe ans controlled manner. When it comes to cloning plants i feel it could be very beneficial if we engineered plants to be heartier and more disease resistant. thus allowing plants to be grown and cultivated with ease, this could in turn help tackle the major hunger problem we face in the world. The same goes for domestic animals who could be engineered to have better health and characteristics. I feel the greatest benefit with cloning is the fact that it could help end world hunger. i fell that there is something morally wrong with human cloning. I feel the greatest benefit with cloning is that you could produce healthy organs to give to people.

    -Nico Capalongo
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    1. i strongly agree that a great benefit of cloning would be to produce healthy organs to give to people.

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    2. I agree with you, that it is a powerful tool and should be used wisely.

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    3. If we make plants more disease resistant, the diseases will just get stronger. We will have to be continually "upgrading" the plants (cabbage 2.0) just to keep up. This would also completely screw anyone who is producing non-test tube plants.

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    5. I agree that a great benefit of human cloning could be to produce organs for people in need.

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  21. I think that cloning is very important and beneficial in many aspects of life. The ability to clone plants is very helpful. The modifications that can be done to help the growth and health of the plants could change the world. If plants could be modified to grow in different climates, then the problem of hunger could be greatly solved. Also, animals could benefit from cloning too. The animal could be more resistant to disease. With humans, we could solve problems that cause death in many. Cloning is the new face of technology and science and will change the world if fully figured out. Cloning, over all, would have a positive impact on society.

    Pierce Dyrlie Per. 3-4

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    1. i think that the ability to clone plants is very helpful as well.

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  22. I think that cloning is a very powerful tool and should be used wisely. I think there should be a very good reason to clone and not everyone should be able to do it. Cloning can be a very good thing but could also be detrimental to people and society. If not used appropriately, cloning could hurt many species that might not be able to recover but if used for good reason cloning could create species that are immune to dangerous viruses. Cloning could also be used to improve the rapid growth of plants so there could be more food resources and less starvation in the world. The cloning of animals could also be used to improve poverty levels all around the world. I still think that people should be extremely careful with cloning though because if something goes wrong with the species being cloned, the species could go extinct. Cloning is supposed to increase the population of the species, not decrease the population. The greatest benefit with cloning is it could help end world hunger. Cloning could also prevent the destruction of viruses. Cloning could alter the genes so they would become more resistant to diseases. Cloning could also be bad because it could create an entire species that had a disease and wipe out the whole species. I think human cloning could be good and bad. Human cloning could be beneficial because it could be used to create another human that has the same blood and DNA as you, so if you need a heart transplant, or a blood transfusion you would have a perfect match. Human cloning could also be bad because it could not go over smoothly and then the clone could have a disability or disease. Any type of cloning could be difficult, so it should not be used unless it is 100% necessary.

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  23. I think Cloning is very helpful. I think plants should be cloned because they could become stronger and disease resistant. Also the cloning of plants could help with the economy in the sense of making prices cheaper. When it comes to cloning animals, however, it bothers me because I feel like I am eating out of a test tube. Now on the other hand, human cloning to me should only be used for organs and blood because the organs would match the person that was the original person perfectly, same with the blood.

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    1. I agree with you on not wanting to eat cloned animals, but why do you feel you are eating out of a test tube for cloned animals, and not for cloned plants? These are almost exactly the same thing.

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  24. Cloning is certainly one of the most complex ethical discussions right now. However, i feel that the cons far outweigh the pros. First off plant cloning, mainly for agricultural purposes. This could help create larger, healthier disease resistant plants. However, i think that this is a terrible idea. My family owns a small, organic farm. We produce a huge variety of fruits and vegetables. The reason we have this diversity is to avoid the defects of mono-cropping. There are many bad things about mono-cropping, but the worst, at least for the farmer, is the possibility of loosing all the plants to one disease or pest. Now, cloning would produce the "perfect" plant - strong, healthy, disease resistant. You spray the plants with pesticides to keep off the insects. But then you get a disease that has become stronger. Because everyone is growing the same, "perfect" plant, every plant of this species dies. And all of this would also make farms like my family's completely impossible to maintain. We would not be able to compete with the prices, or the quality and size of the genetically modified plants, or animals, not to mention the rampant disease. And now people who want to not eat genetically modified plants for health or ethical reasons do not have that option.

    The subject of human cloning, i believe, if a very different topic. Human cloning is more of an ethical issue than a practical issue. Human cloning can be used for good, but we could easily get a culture similar to the one we see in GATTACA, where genetically inferior humans are discriminated. It could bring new meaning to the term "pre-existing condition", where the condition is you. Small things, like creating bacteria that produce insulin, or creating pigs that can be used as organ donors, these are things that could be incredibly helpful to the human race as a whole.

    What ever we do with cloning, we must proceed exceedingly carefully. Being able to alter the fabric of life could potentially give anyone almost unlimited power, which is not a subject anybody should reasonably pursue lightly.

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  25. I think that there are a lot of positive traits to cloning. For starters, cloning can help bring desired genes, and get rid of any negative traits. Cloning in plants is also positive because it can help make the plants immune to diseases to some extent. Cloning also has some negative aspects as well, because although it can take away negative traits, it also causes a decrease in diversity. Cloning also can cause for the the cloning of unwanted traits. overall, I feel that cloning can be very positive if we develop an accurate method for it. The deletion of unwanted genes and traits is very remarkable, and can be very prosperous to the world.

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    1. i agree that the cloning can be very positive if we develop an accurate method for it.

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  26. In general, I think that cloning, if kept under control would benefit society. There are certain aspects of cloning that could help the world, but this issue would also have to have many rules so it wouldn't get out of control. The idea of cloning plants and animals, in my opinion is a good idea. Cloning plants (and animals)could greatly increase food development, and since world hunger is an issue, cloning could help to solve it. Cloning can also fix defective genes, or improve them, making them more disease resistant. One of the greatest benefits of cloning is organ replacement. If organs can really be replicated, then not as many human donors will be needed, and it will be easier to help people. But I also strongly think that if there's a way cloning plants could help world hunger, that this would be a great benefit.
    In the issue of cloning humans, I still have many questions. Would the clone really be an exact replicate, or would different genes show up in different ways? Would the clone think for itself, and have different viewpoints from the subject? I think human cloning could result in huge issues, like inequalities, such like those presented in GATTACA. I feel like it would be the opposite though, because accepting clones as their own individual could be hard. A man made person seems like a risky thing to do. Another question I have about cloning is that if someone is cloned right before they die...will the clone be like them living again?

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    1. You make a good point about inequalities in the world, and man-made people. However solving world hunger would be pretty great!

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    2. I agree with you about cloning humans and the issues it would cause. I also agree with you that cloning that is kept under control it can benefit society!

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  27. In general, I believe that cloning should be used in moderation, like all things. It has many outstanding upsides, yet it comes with several horrifying drawbacks if misused. I think that if used in moderation, cloning could be a great help to the human race. I feel that the cloning of plants and animals is safe and helpful if not overused. Cloning plants could help to create stronger and healthier plants in larger quantities, which could really benefit issues of poverty and world hunger. Yet, if plants/animals are overcloned there is no DNA diversity. There is no genetic variation. If we were to clone the same type of wheat for a long time, eventually there would be no more variant DNA of wheat. Say a disease hits this species of wheat hard and destroys the wheat, now we no longer have any more wheat because the one type of wheat as been destroyed. The biggest drawback is that there is no genetic variation, which could lead to extinction. I believe that we need to wait until we come out with better technology before we can tamper with human cloning. As of right now cloning would be very expensive and dangerous. There are so many different views on stem cell research, and before we have more perfect technology it would cause a huge uproar among the people to start experimenting.I think that in the future human cloning might be a good idea, but for now it is just too soon. The biggest drawback would be "killing" fertilized embryos.

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  28. Cloning to me sounds creepy but also sounds amazing that we could do such a thing. Cloning plants and animals can help us in many ways leading to better products and cheaper products. The cons is the lose of diversity which would mean losing some of the beauty in the world. We put so much emphasis on being different and seeing different animals and plants where you travel but cloning would just continue to stay the same and after awhile it can be boring in a way. Also we don't know what diseases will be coming next and will hit the cloned plants and animals and wipe them out. As for cloning humans i think the most powerful thing in the world is diversity and having everyone be different and unique. Seeing the same people and all being powerful without weakness makes things dull and shows just one color of what the world could be like.

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  29. I feel like the ability to clone living organisms is a very exciting prospect and very impressed that humans have found a method to do it. Cloning plants and animals could be very useful in keeping desired traits, even more powerful than inbreeding. The fact that we would have the ability to bring near extinct species back from the brink is also a huge advantage to cloning. Maybe sometime in the future we will be able to bring back extinct species if we can find preserved specimens of their DNA. Although the prospect of cloning excites me I am also aware of the massive potential cloning has to be dangerous, and the need for genetic diversity in organisms for survival. I believe the greatest potential threat that cloning poses is loss of the large genetic diversity that has developed over centuries because of cloning.
    To me human cloning is kind of out of the question. Maybe cloning as a way to give birth for someone who is unable to have a baby of their own, but growing a human to cut them up and donate their organs to someone else seems wrong... like having a baby and raising it so that when they are old enough they can be sold for parts.

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    1. "Maybe cloning as a way to give birth for someone who is unable to have a baby of their own, but growing a human to cut them up and donate their organs to someone else seems wrong... like having a baby and raising it so that when they are old enough they can be sold for parts," is a really good point. I agree with you 100% that this is totally wrong.

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    2. I also agree with Lauren, no human, clone or even animal should be sold purely for the purposes of harvesting.

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  30. I feel like cloning is amazing!

    It is great if we clone Plants and animal because we can save the one that will be gone forever!

    Cloning plants and animals is fine because they aren't human. Plants don't have feeling and if they do... well their plants anyways.

    Cloning humans is awesome imagine having 10 of yourself. You can do everything you wanne do like going to movies and going to soccer game and hangout with friends play Blackops 2 all at the same time and one of you studies!

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    2. *plants *animals *one *they're *anyway *awesome, *ten *want to *do, *movies, (do not include the "and"), *the soccer or *games (pick one), *Fifa

      If you clone ten of yourselves for basic recreational activities that can be performed with friends or acquaintances it is not a good use of science, money, or energy. And cloning yourself does not make those clones your age. They're going to have to grow up. It'll take fifteen years, Ali. And by that time you'll have moved up to Boston for work, only contacting Ali's #4, #7, #8, #9, #10 bimonthly. You'd prefer #1, #2, and #3, and they come every other week to hang out in your studio loft in Hyde Park. Ali #5 died four years back, he had a heart attack while swimming at the YMCA. Died halfway through a backstroke. And how's his legal fees going to sort out? Does he count as the original Ali? Who are his parents? Where does his inheritance go? Does Ali's will count at Ali #5's will? Ali #6, stricken by grief, moves up to Vancouver to lose himself in the city. Later he moves back to the states, but is brought once again into Vancouver, moving in with Cindy Buro, an old high school friend he found on Facebook. Ali, now caught between paychecks, is told that a law may pass through Congress that will severely cut back rights clones have. Ali joins a strike outside of the Boston Courthouse the next week. Police are sent in on horses, and one protestor throws a beer bottle at the horses, badly injuring it. The police take this as a sign of violence and hose down the strikers with cold water. Ali almost dies of shock. Anti-clone riots have escalated to the point that the Ali clones fear for their lives. The other Ali's are deported to Britain, where they're given asylum. The clone Alis rent space with university kids in South Bank in London, and work they all work at a Staples in Chelsea. One of them wants to make an organic sporting equipment store, but doesn't have the money.

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    3. Interesting comment Ali! I enjoyed your thoroughness and Pearse is just a hater.

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    4. Ali--remember that you would have no control over the clones and they would not be "Born" your age. They would develop from a fetus and have their own mind, they would just have all your DNA. Pearse, it is not necessary for you to correct someone else's spelling, I will take care of that.

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  31. I think that cloning is a very complex way of reproduction. It could be used for many things, such as curing disease, giving people, plants, and animals desirable traits. However I think cloning isn't such a good idea. I think cloning plants and animals is a better solution than cloning humans, but should only be used when absolutely necessary, for there are many things that could go wrong. If you were to clone plants or crops, it could provide us with more and more plants, which would help feed hungry people. I think there is also cons to the cloning of plants and animals.if too many plants are cloned, all the plants in an area will have the same genes, so if they one gets the disease, the whole area is likely to get wiped out. Human cloning is not such a good idea because the world needs genetic diversity. For example, everyone has certain skills, but its where you input them that matters, and if people ate starting to get a certain trait for a certain job, the other jobs that need specific skills will have little opportunity. The greatest threat to cloning is safety. Cloning attempts in animals can result in mutations and short life expectancys

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  32. I think that the cloning of plants is extremely beneficial in that we can increase the population of plants expected the cloned offspring to be "superior". However, a lack of DNA diversity does seem problematic. That is why we should limit ourselves to cloning. As for cloning humans, I think there is no reason for that since we are an over-populated species already. Yet a clone might become useful in governmental work or as a replacement for school. With animals, cloning seems somewhat good, yet it does not prove reliable due to cost and unpopularity.


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  33. Cloning is a big subject and it is not very black and white as to whether or not it is beneficial to our world. I think that cloning plants as long as it is not done too much is fine and would probably help the world. Think cloning animals would be great for helping preserve endangered species and such. I do believe that human cloning is immoral and that even if you clone a human for a heart or lungs you are still left with a human body. I personally think that is too much. The greatest benefit of cloning is the benefit it would do for food. It would make our food better for us and there would be more of it.
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  34. Cloning, in general, seems like an interesting new section of science and biotechnology to explore. However this process should be done in a scientific environment without the aid of mega-corporations or pharmaceutical companies. I believe a non-profit separate party should conduct cloning experiments, such as Space X is doing for space travel. If a corporation is given this power they could easily sneak the tech through the FDA or whichever department deals with cloned organisms. This, along with several other legal issues, troubles me. I mean, cloning does eliminate genetic variation. A virus could easily wipe out a species. If say a drug company got its hands on this technology and engineered bacteria to stop several diseases in the human body, that would be great! They'd put this bacteria into a pill and ship it off. A half year later, however, a silkworm could spread a virus to the Americas, which disrupts this bacteria. This virus could act as a mutagen, disrupting genetic functions and causes the virus to take over. We'd then be feeding ourselves diseases, and not know about it. Okay, maybe that was too far-fetched of a situation. Let's take another. Pets, for example, could be cloned. This also stops genetic variation. If cloning became inexpensive, which will be hard, more people will want cloned pets. Maybe even the same pet as their neighbor, their boss, etc. There could be a whole line of magazines selling pre-made pets. Black Lab #1, Black Lab #2, etc. A virus from polluted seaweed could travel to America and infect all the pets, as their resistance would be low. This would then spread to other animals, and finally into our farms. Financial collapse, right there. And though yes, both of these situations are far-fetched, but with cloning as a possibility they're a step closer to being in reality. The greatest benefit of cloning might be the new traits in can bring to organisms (disease resistance, more nutritional value, etc.). But really, on the other hand the genetic variation is a key to evolution. Without it, evolution fails. It's up to us to keep the cogs turning, the organisms reproducing. If humanity would suddenly disappear, these organisms would not be able to survive on Earth. We could wipe out cattle. In Life After People, it was predicted that if we suddenly did disappear, many farm animals we have would die off. We're meddling with nature too much. And cloning would only add to the problem. Aesthetically and emotionally speaking cloning could be amazing. Missed children could be "returned" to their parents, and organisms could be engineered to be automatically beautiful. Combined with genetic engineering, an entirely new realm is open for possibilities. It should, however, not be done commercially or outside of the lab. Humans should not be cloned, if that was not made clear. I see no use. What purpose would it have? Why would you want a clone? Is it of your long lost brother? The clone wouldn't have your brother's memory. And life takes people away, your brother wouldn't be the first. You should get over it. Is the clone of a genius? There are tens of thousands of geniuses out there, there's no reason to spend a crap tonna money just to clone something you can easily get. Money should be spent to finding geniuses, especially children (good examples: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB1860C67A2998C0B). Do you want to clone someone because you want a test subject? That's morally wrong. There's no reason to clone a human. Militaristic reasons? Religious reasons? Philosophical reasons? The greatest benefit of human cloning is the ability to clone an "alpha" human. But that's genoism. And breeding humans with traits deemed "correct" is not a good behavior. It's a neo-nazi behavior. And that's wrong

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  35. I believe that cloning is a great scientific achievement and can help humanity in innumerable ways. From producing stronger plants to saving endangered species cloning is unbelievably useful. Cloning plants can be very useful for everybody. By cloning a strong healthy plant that produces large amounts of fruits or other beneficial things we can help put an end to starvation and ensure that all the plants will be strong and resistant to diseases. Cloning farm animals, such as cows or chickens, can also be very useful because this way more food could be produced. Cloning plants and animals could be very useful for humanity. The most beneficial part of cloning plants and animals is the huge amount of food that could be produced. This could put an end to starvation forever! Human cloning is also a very beneficial because clones of people could give up their organs for the original person to ensure that they have a long healthy life. Human cloning could greatly increase the average life span for humans. Not everyone would be allowed to have themselves cloned for organs but important people whose prolonged life span would be beneficial to the world could clone themselves many times so they could always have spare organs in case they are needed. This would be quite unenjoyable for the clone. This would be very useful if we would just improve our cloning technology and legalize human cloning.

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    1. What would you feed these animals with? You need huge amounts of feed. And how would you have enough energy for this to occur? Not only is it expensive money-wise but energy wise.

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  36. I believe that cloning is a phenomenon in modern science. I think that it is good to take advantage of cloning of plants and animals. If we did this and created a super plant (more resistant to diseases and more nutritious) or a cloned domestic animal with the same qualities, overall the effects should be mostly beneficial. The greatest problem with cloning plants or animals is that this new breed cuts down on genetic variation and could prove to be susceptible to changes in the enviornment which would then leave us with nothing. I believe that if we don't become too dependent on cloned animals and plants, this shouldn't be that much of a problem. I don't think that there is any need for human cloning. We are all different and that is what makes the world so unique. The only pro that I can see about cloning humans is that it would let people donate organs to be used in transplants. This would greatly help people suffering from diseases where an organ donor is their last hope. People who have lost a child or are unable to have children should adopt instead of cloning. I feel that the actual cloning of humans isn't going to be becoming a reality anytime soon anyway,and it seems like a lot of complications could occur at the slightest error.

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  38. I think cloning is an interesting way of reproduction.In a large percentage of cases, the cloning process fails in the course of pregnancy or some sort of birth defects occur, for example, as in a recent case, a calf born with two faces. Sometimes the defects manifest themselves later and kill the cloneOn the favorable side with successful animal cloning particularly cloning from an adult animal you know exactly how your clone is going to turn out. This becomes especially useful when the whole intention behind cloning is to save a certain species from becoming totally extinct. I think cloning is great even though it could be good or bad.

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  39. I feel that cloning could be beneficial in regards to ending world hunger, letting people live longer, and producing food that is healthier to eat. However, I feel that the potential risks of having little to no genetic variation in any species are too great for cloning to be effective and efficient. All it takes is one disease to wipe out an entire species if said species does not have genetic variation.

    Cloning in plants and animals could be beneficial because it would produce stronger and healthier plants/animals, but once again I feel that the risk of low genetic variation is too great.

    In case you can't tell already, I feel that the greatest problem with cloning is that it results in very little genetic variation. It's just too risky. Imagine that scientist started cloning cows and for a while, the cows produced milk, cheese, butter, etc. that tasted amazing and was much healthier for you to eat. Soon, these were the only type of cows that existed on earth. Well, then a virus comes along that kills every single cow because there was no genetic variation between organism to organism. No more dairy products forever. You can substitute the cow with really any organism (humans included) in the aforementioned scenario and the daunting final result is inevitable.

    I feel human cloning is potentially extremely beneficial, but only if used moderately and for the right reasons. If you could cure something like cancer by replacing the cancerous organs with cloned healthy organs, then by all means, go ahead, that would be a great benefit of cloning technology. But once you get into genetically engineering your kids to be perfect, like in gattaca, that's when things start to get out of hand. So it really depends on how society would agree to use cloning technology in order for me to have a definitive opinion on the subject.

    -Scott Partington per 3/4

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    1. I agree with all the cons you have brought up. Cloning is just too great a risk because of lack of genetic variation.

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  40. In general, I think there are some good reasons that support cloning, however, there are quite a few more negative points. I feel the cloning of plants is great, I didn't see any negative issues with it. The fact that millions of dollars on farms could be saved,and even hunger problems could be reduced is great. However, the cloning of animals or, seems inhumane to me. In the reading, way more cons were brought to my attention about this. Some problems I saw with animals and humans being cloned are,the extremely high cost, health insurance and overall the idea that if more and more super kids are produced, then there will be no varations in DNA.Either way there is a negative side or a positive side. It is great that cloning an organism could save a life, and I would pay money (if I had that much money) to clone an organism in order to keep someone alive. My thoughts on animals and humans being cloned was that it is simply fake. It just seems, as I mentioned before, inhumane, and it seems as if the super kid isn't truly pure and natural. If cloned humans were to become a big deal and popular in the future, I think that non-cloned humans would be discriminated. All in all, there are still many more questions I have. Maybe if I looked at this more depth it would change my mind a little.

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  41. How do you feel about cloning in general?
    I think that cloning can solve many of the worlds problems, such as world hunger, increase the amount of donated organs, and improved traits for animals and plants.

    How do you feel about cloning of plants and animals?
    I feel that cloning of plants and animals is alright because if animals and plants were to be cloned in mass quantities, we would easily be able to mass produce both for food and other reasons.

    What do you think is the greatest benefit OR greatest problem with cloning plants and/or animals?
    Benefit: Creating transgenic farm animals and plants for food.
    Problem: The only problem I see with cloning animals is that it's really expensive.

    How do you feel about human cloning? What do you think is the greatest benefit OR greatest problem with cloning humans?
    Benefit: It would allow us to potentially take out all the unnecessary genes in humans.
    Problem: It would decrease the diversity in the human genome due to the DNA being donated by already existing humans.

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  42. I think cloning is a good thing, and it can be used in a bunch of different ways to provide more sufficient animal food sources, and create more disease resistant animals and plants.

    Cloning plants and animals for the most part sounds like good idea to me, although the cost of cloning an animal is probably more than just naturally having them reproduce.

    A benefit to cloning plants is you can mass produce them to be more disease resistant therefore making them bigger, better, stronger, etc.
    A disadvantage to cloning would definitely be the cost so far cloning is hugely expensive and I don't see it being a huge thing anytime soon until it becomes more cost efficient.

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    1. Cloning is too big of a risk in terms of genetic variation. Cloning an organism may replicate its desired characteristics, but it also clones the bad things about the organism. You can't clone a plant that will forever be all-mighty and disease-resistant. It may not be affected by a certain strain of virus, but who's to say that virus won't mutate and get past the plant's resistance?, in which case every clone could potentially be wiped out

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  43. I believe that cloning is incredibly beneficial to humanity. I think that the many uses of cloning could potentially change the world. Cloning plants could save millions by producing disease-resistant and predictable crops. Animal cloning could potentially end the imminent danger of extinction for many rare species, and could contribute to ending world hunger. I think the biggest problem with cloning is hindering evolution. If DNA is repeated, then the diversity needed for adapting could disappear. Cloning in humans is a complex issue. I think that it could save many lives, for instance when cloning vital organs for donation to the terminally ill. However, it truthfully creeps me out. It would give some people too much power. Even with regulation I think that it could go very badly. That's just my opinion.
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  44. I feel that cloning will be good for humanity because of the positive factors and results it will provide for scientists. Imagine that with these clones we could solve the many genetic diseases by perfecting the DNA we clone. My opinion of the cloning of plants and animals are that we can bring back extinct species that we have DNA remaining of them and we can help bring them back from extinction, or endangerment of extinction. My opinion on human cloning is different though, I would find it extremely weird and possibly horrifying to see another Quinton Hubbell walking around. Cloning is a delicate subject, but when it is successfully performed, imagine all the scientific doors it will open into the unknown.
    -Quinton Hubbell Period 3/4

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  45. Cloning in general is positve because it helps reproduce plants that are more disease resistant. Clonig is very complex way of reproduction. It could be used for many things, such as curing disease, giving people, plants, and animals desirable traitsespecially those with better nutrition, coul help address world unger issues. but i think in human it is not good if you dont have an accurate method for it.it is too risky. so yeah thats all i have to say

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  46. Keep up the great discussion everyone!

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  47. I have mixed feelings about cloning because there is a lot of controversy around it. The cloning of plants is acceptable to me, because I do not find plants harmful, most of the time. However cloning of animals is a bit risky to me. If we create a cow which produces milk with human enzymes in it then clone that cow, or create a plant which produces insulin, then cloning would be of great benefit. Once we begin more cloning of animals besides dolly, we soon move to humans and that's where I draw the line. Human cloning is something I don't feel safe about, because your cells can be cultured from the tiniest traces. Then your walking down the street and you see your clone. Wouldn't that be scary? It would make you feel unsafe right? Knowing the there's someone, somewhere out there that's your clone. Who can steal your identity, and take over your life. I personally feel high uncomfortable in that. There would be a lot of corruption in the government, the corporations even in schools with clones around. Other countries could illegally get a sample from someone working in the CIA, and clone them, then install their spy into CIA by killing the original person. A lot of movie ideas would soon be in the realm of possible if human cloning was further developed into a high efficient method.Which is why I don't feel 100% comfortable with this idea.

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  49. I feel cloning can be both dangerous, and beneficial. Cloning plants can create bigger, better food, but at the same time it could make the species more disease-prone. You may be able to clone a plant that is disease-resistant, but viruses and bacteria are extremely adaptable and could easily find a way around the plants' immune systems. Same with animals. Everything about nature is based off of diversity, and cloning creates exact replicas of organisms. This may be efficient, and productive for the farming industry, but many things can go wrong. This is the problem with cloning animals. Every animal should be different from every other animal, and this can't happen with cloning. There needs to be diversity within species in order for them to survive. If cloning gets out of hand, a single strain of a virus or bacteria could wipe out a whole species. In my opinion, messing with mother-nature is never a good idea.

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